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CallMeStella
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 Posted - 05/14/2012 : 4:12:26 PM
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Originally posted by monkeydharma
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Originally posted by Lancelot of Camelot
UV Judges are going to pimp the contestants.
Judges are supposed to judge. Pimps are supposed to pimp.
Yet another person (albeit inadvertently) points out that the 'judges' are anything but. Cheerleaders? Pimps? Yep. Handing down a yea or nay (the purview of judging)? Nope.
Handing down a yea or nay ends for the "judges" as soon as the voting goes to the public. The voters then become the "judges". At that point, JLo, STyler and Randy (AND Jimmy) become nothing more than commentators and/or pimps, regardless of whether they are sincere or not. They each have their favorite(s) and reasons for what they say. Jimmy has the most at stake because he will be signing the winner, so I would expect him to try to sway the votes toward someone he thinks would be most successful ($$$). The others may just have favorites or are told to favor one contestant over another for whatever reason, however it may (and frequently does) come off as "pimping". I don't like any of it much (except for the rare entertainment value of a few of the comments), and since I don't vote, it doesn't affect my opinion of the performances. For example, I think the so-called "judges" as well as Jimmy more recently, have been pimping Joshua big time but it's not his fault, so I evaluate his performances without regard to any of that. They may be able to influence some voters and for that reason I wish they would just keep their mouths shut. In fact, I don't think they are necessary at all once we have the top 12/13. I'd rather just hear longer versions of the songs with Ryan moderating and let the viewers be the judges. If for some reason we have to hear the "judges" at all, why not just a brief overall comment from each at the end of the show? Make the show about the contestants - what a concept!?! 
I'm a redhead. Deal with it! |
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Starcarolina
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Posted - 05/14/2012 : 4:15:54 PM
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Originally posted by dmariehill
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Originally posted by UVSinger
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Originally posted by Roimeister
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Originally posted by UVSinger
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Originally posted by Roimeister
you forgot Jimmy's and mentor's critiques 
Can't wait to see who Jimmy throws under the bus of his three favorites.
will that influence your poll rankings?
Probably, because whomever he throws under the bus seems to go home ... but it makes me like them more. I can't stand pimping...
Is it pimping when he's right? I just thought of it as pimping when he was wrong. I mean, I've actually agreed with him a number of times. . . .
Jimmy uses harsh, rude and at times unprofessional terms and phrases to critique some of the contestants. IMO, while he is right on certain matters, it is the way he says certain things that put what he says in a whole other league than some of his comments about contestants he seems to favor. He is one person that should give us more insight into the etiology of the contestants failure or success on any given performance. He can leave the excessive, over-blown, unfair, histrionic responses to the "judges" who lose all sense of decorum to make what at most are senseless, useless, unhelpful, biased assessments. Ugh! |
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UVSinger
USA
9303 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2012 : 4:21:43 PM
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Originally posted by Roimeister
updated through Catbert's update
DI Expert Pick 1 Pick 2 Pick 3 Pick 4 Pick 5 Pick 6 Pick 7 Pick 8 Pick 9 Pick 10 Pick 11 Pick 12 Pick 13 AVG
Millergal Jessica Phillip Hollie Skylar Erika Colton HeeJun DeAndre Joshua Elise Shannon Jeremy Jerma 13.219
BobAkimbo Jessica Skylar Phillip Hollie Joshua Colton Erika HeeJun DeAndre Jerma Elise Jeremy Shannon 13.321
jammyjoe Jessica Joshua Hollie Colton Phillip Erika DeAndre Skylar Jeremy HeeJun Elise Jerma Shannon 13.336
Buckeye Jessica Skylar Hollie Joshua Phillip Colton HeeJun Elise Jerma Erika Shannon Jeremy DeAndre 13.422
dmarie Jessica Phillip Joshua Shannon Hollie Erika Jerma Elise Colton HeeJun DeAndre Jeremy Skylar 13.446
CallMeStella Jessica Hollie Phillip HeeJun DeAndre Erika Joshua Skylar Elise Colton Jerma Shannon Jeremy 13.462
Catbert Phillip Jessica Colton Hollie Joshua Skylar Erika DeAndre HeeJun Shannon Elise Jerma Jeremy 13.502
AlbertHodges Jessica Joshua Phillip Erika Jeremy DeAndre Hollie Skylar Shannon Colton HeeJun Elise Jerma 13.543
cajhawk Phillip Jessica Hollie Shannon Joshua Colton Jeremy Erika Elise HeeJun Jerma Skylar DeAndre 13.665
AmbernOK Jessica Hollie Phillip Jeremy Jerma Erika Joshua HeeJun Elise Shannon Skylar Colton DeAndre 13.698
Frogman Phillip Colton Jessica Hollie Skylar Joshua Jerma Shannon Erika Elise HeeJun DeAndre Jeremy 13.747
carriedaway Hollie Jessica Skylar Joshua Colton HeeJun Shannon Elise Phillip Erika Jeremy DeAndre Jerma 13.952
aurora Joshua Jessica Shannon Colton Phillip Hollie Jeremy Jerma Erika HeeJun Elise DeAndre Skylar 14.411
guitarman8484 Skylar Phillip Joshua Jessica Shannon Erika Elise Hollie Colton Jeremy Jerma HeeJun DeAndre 14.646
UVSinger DeAndre Jessica Hollie Skylar HeeJun Colton Phillip Shannon Elise Erika Joshua Jerma Jeremy 15.683
MKEIdol Elise Erika Jessica Hollie Joshua DeAndre Skylar Phillip Colton Shannon Jeremy Jerma HeeJun 15.736
monkeydharma Shannon Phillip Colton Elise Skylar Joshua Jessica Jeremy HeeJun Hollie Jerma DeAndre Erika 15.767
contestant totals:
Jessica 35
Phillip 62
Hollie 72
Joshua 85
Colton 110
Skylar 112
Erika 124
Shannon 139
Elise 148
HeeJun 150
DeAndre 161
Jeremy 172
Jerma 177
The best possible contestant score is currently 17 and the worst possible contestant's score is currently 221
I thought I would go back and see if anyone was close to having all 13 ranked correctly to date.
Congrats to Albert and dmarie for having the right top 3 from the very beginning of 13 idols. |
Edited by - UVSinger on 05/14/2012 4:22:59 PM |
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UVSinger
USA
9303 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2012 : 4:25:13 PM
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Originally posted by Starcarolina
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Originally posted by dmariehill
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Originally posted by UVSinger
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Originally posted by Roimeister
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Originally posted by UVSinger
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Originally posted by Roimeister
you forgot Jimmy's and mentor's critiques
Can't wait to see who Jimmy throws under the bus of his three favorites.
will that influence your poll rankings?
Probably, because whomever he throws under the bus seems to go home ... but it makes me like them more. I can't stand pimping...
Is it pimping when he's right? I just thought of it as pimping when he was wrong. I mean, I've actually agreed with him a number of times. . . .
Jimmy uses harsh, rude and at times unprofessional terms and phrases to critique some of the contestants. IMO, while he is right on certain matters, it is the way he says certain things that put what he says in a whole other league than some of his comments about contestants he seems to favor. He is one person that should give us more insight into the etiology of the contestants failure or success on any given performance. He can leave the excessive, over-blown, unfair, histrionic responses to the "judges" who lose all sense of decorum to make what at most are senseless, useless, unhelpful, biased assessments. Ugh!
Amen to this.
And we know that Jimmy isn't always "right" in America's eyes ... he encouraged Skylar to sing one of the songs in the week of her elimination, didn't he? I don't think he's as "in touch" with what is relevant today as he might think he is. He certainly has more experience and knowledge than I do, but I jut don't feel that he's very current. |
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UVSinger
USA
9303 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2012 : 4:26:50 PM
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Originally posted by CallMeStella
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Originally posted by monkeydharma
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Originally posted by Lancelot of Camelot
UV Judges are going to pimp the contestants.
Judges are supposed to judge. Pimps are supposed to pimp.
Yet another person (albeit inadvertently) points out that the 'judges' are anything but. Cheerleaders? Pimps? Yep. Handing down a yea or nay (the purview of judging)? Nope.
Handing down a yea or nay ends for the "judges" as soon as the voting goes to the public. The voters then become the "judges". At that point, JLo, STyler and Randy (AND Jimmy) become nothing more than commentators and/or pimps, regardless of whether they are sincere or not. They each have their favorite(s) and reasons for what they say. Jimmy has the most at stake because he will be signing the winner, so I would expect him to try to sway the votes toward someone he thinks would be most successful ($$$). The others may just have favorites or are told to favor one contestant over another for whatever reason, however it may (and frequently does) come off as "pimping". I don't like any of it much (except for the rare entertainment value of a few of the comments), and since I don't vote, it doesn't affect my opinion of the performances. For example, I think the so-called "judges" as well as Jimmy more recently, have been pimping Joshua big time but it's not his fault, so I evaluate his performances without regard to any of that. They may be able to influence some voters and for that reason I wish they would just keep their mouths shut. In fact, I don't think they are necessary at all once we have the top 12/13. I'd rather just hear longer versions of the songs with Ryan moderating and let the viewers be the judges. If for some reason we have to hear the "judges" at all, why not just a brief overall comment from each at the end of the show? Make the show about the contestants - what a concept!?!
I'm a redhead. Deal with it!
I like that idea! |
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Roimeister
14132 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2012 : 4:36:31 PM
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Originally posted by UVSinger
I thought I would go back and see if anyone was close to having all 13 ranked correctly to date.
Congrats to Albert and dmarie for having the right top 3 from the very beginning of 13 idols.
so weird.. I swear I looked at this just the other day and planned on posting something just like this before the show on Wednesday |
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UVSinger
USA
9303 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2012 : 5:05:32 PM
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Originally posted by Roimeister
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Originally posted by UVSinger
I thought I would go back and see if anyone was close to having all 13 ranked correctly to date.
Congrats to Albert and dmarie for having the right top 3 from the very beginning of 13 idols.
so weird.. I swear I looked at this just the other day and planned on posting something just like this before the show on Wednesday
LMAO!! Too funny!! I am sure there is something more accurate in recent weeks or even mid season. I wonder who had the most predictions correct in a row. I think the only ones I got "right" were Jeremy, Jermaine and Elise... oh, and Erika. On Elise, I just kept predicting her to go home until she finally did. |
Edited by - UVSinger on 05/14/2012 5:06:09 PM |
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Lancelot of Camelot
3247 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2012 : 5:15:49 PM
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Originally posted by CallMeStella
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Originally posted by monkeydharma
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Originally posted by Lancelot of Camelot
UV Judges are going to pimp the contestants.
Judges are supposed to judge. Pimps are supposed to pimp.
Yet another person (albeit inadvertently) points out that the 'judges' are anything but. Cheerleaders? Pimps? Yep. Handing down a yea or nay (the purview of judging)? Nope.
Handing down a yea or nay ends for the "judges" as soon as the voting goes to the public. The voters then become the "judges". At that point, JLo, STyler and Randy (AND Jimmy) become nothing more than commentators and/or pimps, regardless of whether they are sincere or not. They each have their favorite(s) and reasons for what they say. Jimmy has the most at stake because he will be signing the winner, so I would expect him to try to sway the votes toward someone he thinks would be most successful ($$$). The others may just have favorites or are told to favor one contestant over another for whatever reason, however it may (and frequently does) come off as "pimping". I don't like any of it much (except for the rare entertainment value of a few of the comments), and since I don't vote, it doesn't affect my opinion of the performances. For example, I think the so-called "judges" as well as Jimmy more recently, have been pimping Joshua big time but it's not his fault, so I evaluate his performances without regard to any of that. They may be able to influence some voters and for that reason I wish they would just keep their mouths shut. In fact, I don't think they are necessary at all once we have the top 12/13. I'd rather just hear longer versions of the songs with Ryan moderating and let the viewers be the judges. If for some reason we have to hear the "judges" at all, why not just a brief overall comment from each at the end of the show? Make the show about the contestants - what a concept!?!
I'm a redhead. Deal with it!
Great comments Stella. I don't get why some of us hold it against the contestant if they feel the judges are Pimping them. Honestly I think that if the poster here likes the contestant a lot they look at it less like pimping then if they don't like the contestant. I am in total agreement with you that less judging and more singing would be awesome. |
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RockCity
USA
15801 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2012 : 7:38:44 PM
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Roi, is there anything I can do to help butcher the best thread on this board?  |
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UVSinger
USA
9303 Posts |
Posted - 05/14/2012 : 11:51:21 PM
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Originally posted by Lancelot of Camelot
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Originally posted by CallMeStella
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Originally posted by monkeydharma
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Originally posted by Lancelot of Camelot
UV Judges are going to pimp the contestants.
Judges are supposed to judge. Pimps are supposed to pimp.
Yet another person (albeit inadvertently) points out that the 'judges' are anything but. Cheerleaders? Pimps? Yep. Handing down a yea or nay (the purview of judging)? Nope.
Handing down a yea or nay ends for the "judges" as soon as the voting goes to the public. The voters then become the "judges". At that point, JLo, STyler and Randy (AND Jimmy) become nothing more than commentators and/or pimps, regardless of whether they are sincere or not. They each have their favorite(s) and reasons for what they say. Jimmy has the most at stake because he will be signing the winner, so I would expect him to try to sway the votes toward someone he thinks would be most successful ($$$). The others may just have favorites or are told to favor one contestant over another for whatever reason, however it may (and frequently does) come off as "pimping". I don't like any of it much (except for the rare entertainment value of a few of the comments), and since I don't vote, it doesn't affect my opinion of the performances. For example, I think the so-called "judges" as well as Jimmy more recently, have been pimping Joshua big time but it's not his fault, so I evaluate his performances without regard to any of that. They may be able to influence some voters and for that reason I wish they would just keep their mouths shut. In fact, I don't think they are necessary at all once we have the top 12/13. I'd rather just hear longer versions of the songs with Ryan moderating and let the viewers be the judges. If for some reason we have to hear the "judges" at all, why not just a brief overall comment from each at the end of the show? Make the show about the contestants - what a concept!?!
I'm a redhead. Deal with it!
Great comments Stella. I don't get why some of us hold it against the contestant if they feel the judges are Pimping them. Honestly I think that if the poster here likes the contestant a lot they look at it less like pimping then if they don't like the contestant. I am in total agreement with you that less judging and more singing would be awesome.
Well, I honestly don't get why
-- more people didn't like Deandre
-- so many people liked Elise
-- Elise's diva-like hand movements didn't annoy more people
-- some of you kill deer ... and eat deer 
-- Joshua's screaming doesn't irritate more people
-- people don't talk about Joshua's cow-neck girlie sweaters
... etc.
To each his or her own, right?
Why have a forum for discussion if we can't discuss?
Why does everything have to be the way you see it?
Why are you so argumentative?
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Edited by - UVSinger on 05/14/2012 11:54:09 PM |
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Roimeister
14132 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2012 : 12:10:35 AM
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why does the word "why" mean "why" ?
I mean.. why isn't there another word we use instead of "why"?
sure sure we can always use "for what reason...?" but why isn't there another monosyllabic word for "why" ?
why? oh why? |
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UVSinger
USA
9303 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2012 : 12:15:39 AM
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Originally posted by Roimeister
why does the word "why" mean "why" ?
I mean.. why isn't there another word we use instead of "why"?
sure sure we can always use "for what reason...?" but why isn't there another monosyllabic word for "why" ?
why? oh why?
what? |
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Roimeister
14132 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2012 : 12:16:16 AM
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Originally posted by UVSinger
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Originally posted by Roimeister
why does the word "why" mean "why" ?
I mean.. why isn't there another word we use instead of "why"?
sure sure we can always use "for what reason...?" but why isn't there another monosyllabic word for "why" ?
why? oh why?
what?
yea.. that's another one... |
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UVSinger
USA
9303 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2012 : 12:19:16 AM
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Originally posted by Roimeister
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Originally posted by UVSinger
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Originally posted by Roimeister
why does the word "why" mean "why" ?
I mean.. why isn't there another word we use instead of "why"?
sure sure we can always use "for what reason...?" but why isn't there another monosyllabic word for "why" ?
why? oh why?
what?
yea.. that's another one...
huh?
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Roimeister
14132 Posts |
Posted - 05/15/2012 : 12:43:35 AM
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don't even get me started on "huh"... not only is it a question and an answer... it's a sex-noise...
"huh?"
"uh huh!"
"huh"
"huh"
"huh"
"huh"
"huh"
"huh"
"HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh"
"huhhhhhhhhh" |
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