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Roimeister
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 Posted - 03/02/2012 : 10:33:56 PM
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Oh Boy... another season!
Last year, this info was pretty useless as a forecasting tool for who was going home, but from the very first week, it predicted Scotty as the winner... we'll see how that works this season...
thanks to Gman for the Facebook and Twitter numbers this week...
since this is the first week, I was lazy and just used last years two-week table and put the same data in for both weeks...
Philip and DeAndre were shortened since their names screw up the spacing...
FB % FB % % Rank
"votes" of "votes" of increase last
Contestant 3/2 Total 3/2 Total in "votes" week
Colton Dixon 18509 18.31% 18509 18.31% 0.00% 1
Hee Jun Han 13001 12.86% 13001 12.86% 0.00% 2
Phillip 12630 12.49% 12630 12.49% 0.00% 3
Jessica Sanchez 7526 7.44% 7526 7.44% 0.00% 4
DeAndre 7515 7.43% 7515 7.43% 0.00% 5
Skylar Laine 7462 7.38% 7462 7.38% 0.00% 6
Joshua Ledet 6034 5.97% 6034 5.97% 0.00% 7
Hollie Cavanagh 5971 5.91% 5971 5.91% 0.00% 8
Elise Testone 5784 5.72% 5784 5.72% 0.00% 9
Shannon Magrane 5539 5.48% 5539 5.48% 0.00% 10
Jeremy Rosado 4703 4.65% 4703 4.65% 0.00% 11
Erika Van Pelt 4474 4.43% 4474 4.43% 0.00% 12
Jermaine Jones 1958 1.94% 1958 1.94% 0.00% 13
101,106 101,106 0.00%
Twitter % Twitter % % Rank
"votes" of "votes" of increase last
Contestant 3/2 Total 3/2 Total in "votes" week
Phillip 29473 16.15% 29473 16.15% 0.00% 1
Hee Jun Han 29090 15.94% 29090 15.94% 0.00% 2
Colton Dixon 28236 15.47% 28236 15.47% 0.00% 3
Erika Van Pelt 28628 15.69% 28628 15.69% 0.00% 4
Jessica Sanchez 12039 6.60% 12039 6.60% 0.00% 5
DeAndre 9690 5.31% 9690 5.31% 0.00% 6
Skylar Laine 9433 5.17% 9433 5.17% 0.00% 7
Shannon Magrane 8431 4.62% 8431 4.62% 0.00% 8
Hollie Cavanagh 7285 3.99% 7285 3.99% 0.00% 9
Jeremy Rosado 7142 3.91% 7142 3.91% 0.00% 10
Joshua Ledet 6556 3.59% 6556 3.59% 0.00% 11
Elise Testone 4769 2.61% 4769 2.61% 0.00% 12
Jermaine Jones 1695 0.93% 1695 0.93% 0.00% 13
182,467 182,467 0.00%
DI % DI % % Rank
"votes" of "votes" of increase last
Contestant 3/2 Total 3/2 Total in "votes" week
Phillip 3828 11.00% 3828 11.00% 0.00% 1
Colton Dixon 3784 10.87% 3784 10.87% 0.00% 2
Hollie Cavanagh 3766 10.82% 3766 10.82% 0.00% 3
Jermaine Jones 3521 10.12% 3521 10.12% 0.00% 4
Hee Jun Han 3220 9.25% 3220 9.25% 0.00% 5
Shannon Magrane 2850 8.19% 2850 8.19% 0.00% 6
Jessica Sanchez 2694 7.74% 2694 7.74% 0.00% 7
Skylar Laine 2632 7.56% 2632 7.56% 0.00% 8
Elise Testone 2354 6.76% 2354 6.76% 0.00% 9
Joshua Ledet 2116 6.08% 2116 6.08% 0.00% 10
Erika Van Pelt 2000 5.75% 2000 5.75% 0.00% 11
DeAndre 1192 3.42% 1192 3.42% 0.00% 12
Jeremy Rosado 852 2.45% 852 2.45% 0.00% 13
34,809 34,809 0.00%
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Average Average Last
Contestant 3/2 3/2 Change Week
Colton Dixon 14.88% 14.88% 0.00% 1
Phillip 13.21% 13.21% 0.00% 2
Hee Jun Han 12.68% 12.68% 0.00% 3
Erika Van Pelt 8.62% 8.62% 0.00% 4
Jessica Sanchez 7.26% 7.26% 0.00% 5
Hollie Cavanagh 6.91% 6.91% 0.00% 6
Skylar Laine 6.70% 6.70% 0.00% 7
Shannon Magrane 6.10% 6.10% 0.00% 8
DeAndre 5.39% 5.39% 0.00% 9
Joshua Ledet 5.21% 5.21% 0.00% 10
Elise Testone 5.03% 5.03% 0.00% 11
Jermaine Jones 4.33% 4.33% 0.00% 12
Jeremy Rosado 3.67% 3.67% 0.00% 13
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dmariehill
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Posted - 03/03/2012 : 09:20:28 AM
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'bout time you came back. I was starting to think you ran away.
Been saving this one for you. . . .
Dawnmarie |
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Roimeister
14231 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2012 : 12:17:39 PM
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| LMAO Dawn! excellent! |
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UVSinger
USA
9336 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 7:44:19 PM
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Hi Roi, welcome back.
EVP's twitter followers were gained by some sort of hack program. I posted a tweet to Nigel about it in the Top 24 twitter/facebook thread. |
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Lancelot of Camelot
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 7:59:39 PM
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Originally posted by UVSinger
Hi Roi, welcome back.
EVP's twitter followers were gained by some sort of hack program. I posted a tweet to Nigel about it in the Top 24 twitter/facebook thread.
EVP has some pretty radical devoted fans. I think it is somewhat deserved. She can really sing but an overweight white girl going far in AI would be surprising. |
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Roimeister
14231 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 8:01:08 PM
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thanks hon... it's good to be back... I'm sorry to hear about your dog {{{{{{{{{{{UV}}}}}}}}}}}
yea I saw the post... I used the numbers anyway since there's nothing else for me to go on... if she leaves early, it won't matter... if she hangs around a long time, her twitter numbers will always be suspect...
maybe I should put a caveat on her twitter numbers next week |
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UVSinger
USA
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 8:04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Lancelot of Camelot
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Originally posted by UVSinger
Hi Roi, welcome back.
EVP's twitter followers were gained by some sort of hack program. I posted a tweet to Nigel about it in the Top 24 twitter/facebook thread.
EVP has some pretty radical devoted fans. I think it is somewhat deserved. She can really sing but an overweight white girl going far in AI would be surprising.
She gained almost 20,000 fans via a hack problem and even admitted it, it's on her twitter feed and Nigel's. |
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UVSinger
USA
9336 Posts |
Posted - 03/06/2012 : 8:10:21 PM
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Originally posted by Roimeister
thanks hon... it's good to be back... I'm sorry to hear about your dog {{{{{{{{{{{UV}}}}}}}}}}}
yea I saw the post... I used the numbers anyway since there's nothing else for me to go on... if she leaves early, it won't matter... if she hangs around a long time, her twitter numbers will always be suspect...
maybe I should put a caveat on her twitter numbers next week
Looks like you had a great vacation from your awesome pics!
Thank you for the kind words about my dog. Yeah, I lost my third old best buddy in 14 months. As if that didn't suck bad enough, he was my first dog in my adult life and I had him since he was 8 weeks old. That dog was my world. I want to go join them right about now, it sucks so bad. :(
He was the greatest dog, very loyal. Saved my life, too. He was 14 going on 15... he lived a good long life and to see him die like that today broke my heart. :(
Anyway, sorry to cry and ramble here on your thread.
I do think the Twitter count is about 20,000 off, per the post.
It does greatly exaggerate her ranking but what can you do. She will most likely go home in the next few weeks as her fan support is not as great as the others. And we all know three girls went home in the first three weeks last year so they guys tend to rack up the votes. Who knows, hopefully this year won't have the same exile of half the women so fast.
I think she would more accurately fall in the bottom 4 of the rankings, but not sure how you could manipulate the data with the wrong numbers. Maybe try one ranking with the numbers as they stand, and a separate with "minus 20,000" Twitter followers? Too much work, I suppose. Thanks for doing this, it's interesting to me.  |
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Roimeister
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Posted - 03/06/2012 : 8:42:04 PM
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ok.. so as soon as I read your "20,000" the first time, I was already thinking of subtracting that much just to see what happens...
since the spreadsheet is really a 2-week sheet, I just put in a different number for her for the second week and it shows the effect that change has on both the twiter rank and the average rank.. so here ya go
twitter
Phillip 29473 16.15% 29473 18.14% 0.00% 1
Hee Jun Han 29090 15.94% 29090 17.91% 0.00% 2
Colton Dixon 28236 15.47% 28236 17.38% 0.00% 3
Jessica Sanchez 12039 6.60% 12039 7.41% 0.00% 5
DeAndre 9690 5.31% 9690 5.96% 0.00% 6
Skylar Laine 9433 5.17% 9433 5.81% 0.00% 7
Erika Van Pelt 28628 15.69% 8628 5.31% -69.86% 4
Shannon Magrane 8431 4.62% 8431 5.19% 0.00% 8
Hollie Cavanagh 7285 3.99% 7285 4.48% 0.00% 9
Jeremy Rosado 7142 3.91% 7142 4.40% 0.00% 10
Joshua Ledet 6556 3.59% 6556 4.04% 0.00% 11
Elise Testone 4769 2.61% 4769 2.94% 0.00% 12
Jermaine Jones 1695 0.93% 1695 1.04% 0.00% 13
and the average
Colton Dixon 14.88% 15.52% 0.63% 1
Phillip 13.21% 13.88% 0.66% 2
Hee Jun Han 12.68% 13.34% 0.65% 3
Jessica Sanchez 7.26% 7.53% 0.27% 5
Hollie Cavanagh 6.91% 7.07% 0.16% 6
Skylar Laine 6.70% 6.92% 0.21% 7
Shannon Magrane 6.10% 6.29% 0.19% 8
DeAndre 5.39% 5.61% 0.22% 9
Joshua Ledet 5.21% 5.36% 0.15% 10
Erika Van Pelt 8.62% 5.16% -3.46% 4
Elise Testone 5.03% 5.14% 0.11% 11
Jermaine Jones 4.33% 4.37% 0.04% 12
Jeremy Rosado 3.67% 3.83% 0.16% 13
bottom 4.. ding ding ding! |
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UVSinger
USA
9336 Posts |
Posted - 03/07/2012 : 09:43:10 AM
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Here are the tweets, fyi:
@dizzyfeet not fair when people on the net go WOW erika has 30k plus followers when in reality she has like 7k real ones non paid for
12:43 PM - 6 Mar 12 via web · Details
@dizzyfeet that re tweet is a lie she never had it hacked someone paid for 25k followers makes the rest look bad just is not right.
12:41 PM - 6 Mar 12 via web · Details
@dizzyfeet @EVanPeltAI11 has over 23k fake followers either she or someone bought for her.Have screen shots and even tweets to prove it fix>
Erika Van Pelt Erika Van Pelt #8207; @EVanPeltAI11
@dizzyfeet Erika has 30k followers 24k of them are fake.she even tweeted she knows.she also said it was being fixed lied fake followers yet
@dizzyfeet Nobody would hack a account to give the person 23k followers Please erika got caught it is a insult to anyone with a brain
@EVanPeltAI11@dizzyfeet The situation is being handled My account was hacked. I appreciate all of my REAL followers she lied still 23k fakes
5 Mar robert robert #8207; @rodney3421
@dizzyfeet you guys do not let them DM but you let them have 23k fake followers.Erika's followers are paid for fakes i have the proof
5 Mar robert robert #8207; @rodney3421
@dizzyfeet see on twitter you can pay for followers and she either did or someone did for her It is not right when people compare each other
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Roimeister
14231 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2012 : 12:01:36 PM
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let me first begin by saying that Erika Van Pelt's Twitter numbers haven't been officially corrected yet so I'm going to use the fudged number... looking at EVP's DialIdol numbers makes them suspect to me also... it would probably be best to just ignore her numbers LOL
now for the individual numbers...
for FB... Jessica skyrocketed... but not much else changed, although it was a pretty large increase in total votes...
FB % FB % % Rank
"votes" of "votes" of increase last
Contestant 3/2 Total 3/8 Total in "votes" week
Colton Dixon 18509 18.31% 27008 16.04% 45.92% 1
Jessica Sanchez 7526 7.44% 22495 13.36% 198.90% 4
Hee Jun Han 13001 12.86% 20814 12.36% 60.10% 2
Phillip 12630 12.49% 18555 11.02% 46.91% 3
DeAndre 7515 7.43% 13190 7.83% 75.52% 5
Skylar Laine 7462 7.38% 12837 7.62% 72.03% 6
Hollie Cavanagh 5971 5.91% 10253 6.09% 71.71% 8
Joshua Ledet 6034 5.97% 8915 5.29% 47.75% 7
Elise Testone 5784 5.72% 8035 4.77% 38.92% 9
Shannon Magrane 5539 5.48% 7961 4.73% 43.73% 10
Jeremy Rosado 4703 4.65% 7263 4.31% 54.43% 11
Erika Van Pelt 4474 4.43% 7187 4.27% 60.64% 12
Jermaine Jones 1958 1.94% 3902 2.32% 99.28% 13
101,106 168,415 66.57%
for Twitter... about the same % increase in overall "votes" and Jessica had the largest % increase, but there was only minor changes in the rankings
Twitter % Twitter % % Rank
"votes" of "votes" of increase last
Contestant 3/2 Total 3/8 Total in "votes" week
Hee Jun Han 29090 15.94% 53535 17.68% 84.03% 2
Phillip 29473 16.15% 46921 15.50% 59.20% 1
Colton Dixon 28236 15.47% 44699 14.76% 58.31% 4
Erika Van Pelt 28628 15.69% 32163 10.62% 12.35% 3
Jessica Sanchez 12039 6.60% 28737 9.49% 138.70% 5
Skylar Laine 9433 5.17% 17171 5.67% 82.03% 7
DeAndre 9690 5.31% 16994 5.61% 75.38% 6
Hollie Cavanagh 7285 3.99% 14511 4.79% 99.19% 9
Shannon Magrane 8431 4.62% 13871 4.58% 64.52% 8
Jeremy Rosado 7142 3.91% 11591 3.83% 62.29% 10
Joshua Ledet 6556 3.59% 9817 3.24% 49.74% 11
Elise Testone 4769 2.61% 8325 2.75% 74.56% 12
Jermaine Jones 1695 0.93% 4451 1.47% 162.60% 13
182,467 302,786 65.94%
for actual DI votes... overall numbers were down a fraction...
yea.. someone named EVP just might have a stalker inflating their twitter numbers and now their DI numbers... other than that, Jessica made a nice gain here too...
DI % DI % % Rank
"votes" of "votes" of increase last
Contestant 3/2 Total 3/8 Total in "votes" week
Erika Van Pelt 2000 5.75% 5144 15.08% 157.20% 11
Jessica Sanchez 2694 7.74% 4203 12.32% 56.01% 7
Colton Dixon 3784 10.87% 4200 12.32% 10.99% 2
Phillip 3828 11.00% 3995 11.71% 4.36% 1
Hollie Cavanagh 3766 10.82% 3748 10.99% -0.48% 3
Skylar Laine 2632 7.56% 2587 7.59% -1.71% 8
Joshua Ledet 2116 6.08% 2343 6.87% 10.73% 10
Elise Testone 2354 6.76% 1709 5.01% -27.40% 9
Shannon Magrane 2850 8.19% 1524 4.47% -46.53% 6
DeAndre 1192 3.42% 1466 4.30% 22.99% 12
Hee Jun Han 3220 9.25% 1362 3.99% -57.70% 5
Jermaine Jones 3521 10.12% 1304 3.82% -62.97% 4
Jeremy Rosado 852 2.45% 518 1.52% -39.20% 13
34,809 34,103 -2.03%
overall... HeeJun, Shannon, and Jermaine lost the most ground with Jessica absorbing most of the gain...
Rank
Average Average Last
Contestant 3/2 3/8 Change Week
Colton Dixon 14.88% 14.37% -0.51% 1
Phillip 13.21% 12.74% -0.47% 2
Jessica Sanchez 7.26% 11.72% 4.46% 5
Hee Jun Han 12.68% 11.34% -1.34% 3
Erika Van Pelt 8.62% 9.99% 1.37% 4
Hollie Cavanagh 6.91% 7.29% 0.38% 6
Skylar Laine 6.70% 6.96% 0.26% 7
DeAndre 5.39% 5.91% 0.53% 9
Joshua Ledet 5.21% 5.14% -0.08% 10
Shannon Magrane 6.10% 4.59% -1.50% 8
Elise Testone 5.03% 4.18% -0.86% 11
Jeremy Rosado 3.67% 3.22% -0.45% 13
Jermaine Jones 4.33% 2.54% -1.79% 12
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UVSinger
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9336 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2012 : 11:06:25 PM
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| yep these numbers are shaping up to be how i see it all ending.... minus Erika's inflated numbers. She'll be gone in a few weeks and it won't matter! |
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guitarman8484
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2012 : 10:47:09 PM
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Not sure if this warranted it's own thread so I figured I'd post it here. Although we are never given iTunes sales rankings during the season, I figured out a method last season for gauging popularity using iTunes. I didn't keep up with it enough to see how accurate was so we'll try again this season.
Basically I'm gonna rank them by ratings- a contestant with a 5 star average ranks higher than one with a 4 star average, and more ratings equal higher ranking.
1.Jessica-5 stars-229 ratings
2.Phillip-5 stars-147 ratings
3.Colton-5 stars-90 ratings
4.Hollie-5 stars-59 ratings
5.Skylar-5 stars-55 ratings
6.Elise-5 stars-32 ratings
7.Joshua-5 stars-25 ratings
8.DeAndre-4.5 stars-54 ratings
9.Shannon-4.5 stars-48 ratings
10.Hee Jun-4.5 stars-46 ratings
11.Erika-4.5 stars-24 ratings
12.Jermaine-3 stars-14 ratings |
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Roimeister
14231 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2012 : 03:13:05 AM
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yea I remember that from last year... I don't remember why I didn't add it to my rankings, but it could possibly be because it's not an absolute...
and what I mean by that is... it's debatable to me whether or not 25 ratings of 5 stars is a higher rating than 54 ratings of 4.5 stars... simple math says it's not... fuzzy math says it is...
and I'm just simply fuzzy... |
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guitarman8484
USA
1065 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2012 : 11:21:43 AM
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| You may be right Roi. It's definitely a good way of predicting the bottom and the top contestants but in the middle it can be a bit fuzzy. |
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CallMeStella
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Posted - 03/11/2012 : 6:14:39 PM
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Originally posted by Roimeister
yea I remember that from last year... I don't remember why I didn't add it to my rankings, but it could possibly be because it's not an absolute...
and what I mean by that is... it's debatable to me whether or not 25 ratings of 5 stars is a higher rating than 54 ratings of 4.5 stars... simple math says it's not... fuzzy math says it is...
and I'm just simply fuzzy...
Do the number of ratings correspond in any way to the number of iTunes sold for any contestant? I would think that not every who buys a song takes the time to give it a rating, or do they? Can you even find out how many of any of the songs were sold? If so, maybe you can come up with some super duper fancy shmancy formula to determine another interesting albeit most likely meaningless way to rank the group (That's truly not a dig, just facing reality  ).
Can you only buy the current songs from any particular week or are they always for sale throughout the season? That could make a difference, too, maybe in the area of trending. You know, if someone is slower to pick a favorite, they might go back and buy all that person's songs and if that person (or any of them) start selling more in general, then that person or persons are becoming more popular and moving up in the rankings. I have no idea how that could be tracked and evaluated but just throwing it out there.
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